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-- Start log: Thursday, February 16, 2006 4:26:38 pm English MOO time --


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Sally says, "Hi Spencer. I'm looking forward to your session."
metaspencer says, "Hey Sally! I'm looking forward to it too. Thanks for all your help!"
metaspencer says, "I'm just looking through this "poster" -- it looks like quite a class (and quite a lot of work!)"
Sally says, "It is, a wonderful debate! See you in a bit in your session room"
metaspencer says, "Okay, take care."
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metaspencer says, "This project (or I guess I should say class) gives me lots of ideas. Thanks for putting it together!"
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Marie says, "Are you awake, Joseph?"
Marie says, "You can page me later. I was wondering--so you're using the discussion board as a way to have students post each phase of their assignment? Why a discussion board? Are the students interacting with each other?"
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JosephC nods.
JosephC says, "My first consideration was to use discussion forums to prepare students for writing online- moving away from IM talk and becomming better prepared to discuss in grammatical English"
JosephC says, "My second consideration is that technology itself is a motivator- I saw reluctant writers get into the assignment for the sake of technology itself"
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JosephC says, "But the TRUE purpose was two-fold: provide the class with examples of student writing"
JosephC says, "And, in the end, to enter into a discussion / debate with one another on the merits of the policy they created."
Paula says, "hello"
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Paula [to JosephC]: What grade level was this project designed for?
Sally says, "Hi Joe!"
JosephC says, "Hey there"
JosephC says, "This was designed for sixth grade."
JosephC says, "emote nods to Sally."
JosephC nods to Sally.
Paula says, "How familiar with the students with the various technologies they used for the assignmnet?"
JosephC says, "I would say at least two or three students were advanced proficient with discussion forums."
JosephC says, "The others picked up on it REALLY quickly because they were familiar with email."
Paula says, ""thanks"
JosephC says, "Sure!"
Paula says, ""do you think the fact that students engaged in online conversations changed the nature of their discussion?"
JosephC says, "Absolutely."
Paula says, ""i haven't thought - or read about - this student population and online conversations"
Paula says, "in what ways?"
JosephC says, "First of all, students that were reluctant to SPEAK in class were the ones that were most vocal on the discussion boards"
JosephC says, "The classroom is limited to having one person at a time talk, but on the discussion boards the conversation happened with all students concurrently- at any given time there could be several strands of discussion happening. I found that more students could be involved at one time."
JosephC says, "Also I guided them to use "quotes" from previous posts as a way to continue discussion."
Paula says, ""i wonder if getting more students involved in class discussions, at this young age, helps those students out as they get older"
JosephC says, "I thought this would make for a nice platform when they later have to quote sources in HS and college level research."
Paula says, "in other words, they get experiences speaking up in "virtual class", which may help those quiet students to speak up more later on in "real face-to-face" class"
Paula says, "yes great idea to get students using quotes"
Paula says, "not only the technical aspect of how to quote, but also how to riff off another person's comments, or to use another person's comments as evidence"
JosephC says, "To be honest, I didn't see those shy students become more assertive in the actual classrom after this assignment. They were only vocal in the context of the virtual classroom"
JosephC says, "Exactly"
JosephC says, "That might be a tough skill to teach 6th graders in the academic sense, but it flowed naturally in this forum"
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Paula says, "oh that's too bad. but maybe later on it will help. could be an interesting educational study"
Paula says, "right, they may have been using quotes in such a way, even if they didn't realize it"
JosephC says, "I later had the students participate in an actual policy debate, and I saw those quoting skills translate to that activity later on"
Paula says, "so there is some transference in skill there"
Paula says, "do you think the studnets could have articulated/explained how they were using the quoting skills they learned in the forum?"
JosephC says, "I just hope that they retain those skills for the years to come, but I'm afraid that it may just be 'use it or lose it,' and if those 7th and 8th grade teachers don't continue these skills, it may have to be retaught in the HS"
JosephC says, "Hrmm, let me think about that. Actually, can you restate the question."
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Paula says, "i was wondering if, when the students use the quoting skills in debate, if they would say they learned those skills in the forum? "
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RobinE [to JosephC]: Thank you.
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JosephC says, "AAhhh, good question. I have the students write reflection papers after every assignment. I don't recall anyone mentioning that they learned that skill directly from the discussion forum."
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Paula says, "reflections papers, good idea. maybe with prompting they would have talked about that. well thank you for responding! Nice job with your poster"
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RobinE [to JosephC]: Most of the research I have read is about high school and college students. It seems to me that students should start writing with technology as early as possible. What do you think?
JosephC says, "page marie they liked that I broke the assignment down into seperate stages. It really helped my special education population. As it chunked directions, and provided them examples of what to do. I often chunk directions in any writing assignment, but never had the opportunity to have them share their work to this degree."
JosephC says, "Oops, mistell"
JosephC says, "I agree"
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KevinJ [to JosephC]: Well done. Do you think that there is benefit to just letting students loose on a forumlike the oneyou used?
JosephC says, "If there are security measures in place to protect the privacy of the students, and if it is teacher moderated."
KevinJ says, "Would the students have followed asimilar process without your "chunking" do you think?"
JosephC says, "My wife looked at the explosion and danger involved with MySpace, and created a discussion forum site for her language arts classes that were not necessarily tied into a writing assignment."
JosephC says, "Nope"
KevinJ says, "Interesting thanks. Off to the Keynotes."
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-- End log: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 3:23:48 am English MOO time --